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How to Spot Ineffective Discipline – Tips for Christian Parents

Do you find that your discipline falls flat? Maybe it isn’t discipline at all. Here we look to God’s word to learn what what God considers ineffective discipline.

We all want to discipline our children effectively. The fact that there are thousands of books out there on the subject tells us that we are eager to do it “right.” But sometimes, we can think we are training our kids only to realize that we are simply engaging in ineffective discipline.

A story of an ineffective father

In 1 Samuel 2 and 3, we read the story about Eli and his wayward sons. While working in the temple as priests alongside their dad, Eli’s boys would help themselves to whatever sacrificial meat they wanted – often before it was even offered to the Lord. This was in direct violation of God’s laws. Eli’s sons were also sleeping with the women who were serving at the entrance to the tabernacle. More despicable behavior.

As I was reading through this passage I was struck with something odd. There is a section title (in my bible translation- NIV) in chapter 2 that reads, “Eli Rebukes His Sons.” But as I continued reading, I came across this pronouncement from the Lord in chapter 3 verse 13: “Now I have told him that I am about to judge his house forever for the sinful behavior which he knew [was happening] because his sons were bringing a curse on themselves and he did not rebuke them.” What?? But the section title at the end of the previous chapter says he did! I was confused so I went back and read it again. Clearly the section titles are not in the original text and are only put there for clarity. In this case, I think it created confusion. Let’s look at this “rebuke” Eli gave his sons in chapter 2:

“Eli said to them, “Why do you do such things, the evil things that I hear from all these people? No, my sons: for the report that I keep hearing from the passers-by among the Lord’s people is not good. If one man does wrong and sins against another, God will intercede for him; but if a man does wrong to the Lord, who can intercede for him?”

That’s it. Just a “why” question, a statement of the facts and another vague question about what they think will happen if they carry on like this. There is nothing wrong per se about what Eli said to his sons, but God was clear that it didn’t suffice as a rebuke. He didn’t DO anything about it. And grave consequences were the result.

Effective discipline is more than words

I think, we can sometimes be guilty of the same. We think we have done our job when we point out what our kids are doing wrong and where it will lead them. But if we don’t DO anything about it, is it really a rebuke? Likely not. Here are some examples:

“Why aren’t you taking the trash out like you are supposed to? You are not doing your part in this family. If you can’t even do something as simple as taking the trash out, how are you going to survive at college?”


“Why can’t you get your homework done on time? I keep getting notices from your teacher. You won’t get a passing grade at this rate.”

Those two examples are really foundationally the same “rebuke” Eli gave his sons. They have no substance. They are just words. When we intervene with our kids in this fashion, we might feel that we have satisfied our role to discipline, but have we?

Keys to effective discipline

We can’t discipline without getting our hands dirty. More and more, I see parents shying away from direct parenting techniques and relying more and more on passive comments and reflections. This is ineffective discipline. Let’s focus on what we can do differently. Here are some simple guidelines:

1) Make your expectations clear.

2) When those expectations are not met, give a warning.

3) If they continue, DO something to help them remember the expectations in the future.

This last part is a bit tricky. It’s the doing that trips us up. We want to be firm, not harsh. Empowering, not enabling. Corrective, not critical. The best way to maintain this balance is to discipline without emotion and in direct response to what you want to correct. Emotions have no place in discipline. This can go either way: you may be really upset and punish more harshly than necessary or feel guilty and weaken your message.

An example of effective discipline

Let’s take the trash situation above. You have a child who isn’t taking the trash out when asked. First things first: make sure your child knows what is expected. “Take the trash out” is vague and leaves too much open to interpretation. Walk your child through the steps of taking the trash out. Give a time frame (by 5pm, for example). Be specific. Write it down. You want your expectations to be clear. That way everyone knows when an expectation has or has not been met. If it isn’t done when or how it was described, give a warning (everyone forgets things). Sit them down and tell them specifically what will happen if it happens again. Make sure the consequence speaks their language. You may decide that phone usage is getting in the way of trash duties. An appropriate “rebuke” might be that the child turns in his phone upon entering the house. Once a set number of days have passed that the trash has been done on time and correctly, he can have it back.

Discipline is only discipline if it is more than words. There is a place for wise counsel (Proverbs is a great example of a father giving wise counsel to his son). But, as this passage has revealed, a rebuke that is just words really isn’t a rebuke in God’s eyes at all.

This article is for informational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment from a qualified mental health professional. Cornerstones for Parents is not liable for any advice, tips, techniques, and recommendations the reader chooses to implement.

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Laura Kuehn, LCSW

Laura is a licensed clinical social worker who offers individual therapy to women and moms in Connecticut. She is the author of More Than a Conqueror, A Christian Kid's Guide to Winning the War on Worry. Cornerstones for Parents is the place she combines some of the things she is most passionate about: God's word, parenting and mental health.


  • Laura, thanks for these thoughts! I’ve read maybe 8 posts in the last 10 minutes, but still feeling very unclear on what to do – though you have given lots of useful information. I guess I would prefer to buy a book from you, so I can systematically learn a proper philosophy or method. Do you have a book? I did see your slide show, I’m just worried that when I’m done with it, I won’t be any clearer on what to do.
    Your website is great! Thank you!

    • Hi Jesse,

      I don’t have a book but I am glad that some of my posts have provided some useful information. I hear your struggle. As parents, it would be great to have “one surefire method” by which to parent. In fact, there are a lot of books out there that will tell you they can give you that. Over the years, I have found that all books fall short in some fashion. I found that none really seemed to “fit” me quite right. I think that might be what you are experiencing here.

      Parenting is a bit like anything that is a creative or organic endeavor. You need to find your voice – a way of parenting that resonates with who God has made you to be and who you are raising. When you read my articles, you hear my parenting “voice.” And to be honest that voice has changed over the years as my children have grown. But if you try to adopt another voice without modification, you will find that it might feel like wearing a costume – it’s not the real you. And try as you may, it just won’t become second nature.

      I know that isn’t a very concrete answer and does not provide much by way of specific guidance. But I hope it encourages you to trust what the Lord is doing in your heart and to pray and to listen. Parenting is as much about refining us as it is about being used to refine our children.

      God bless you,

  • Disciplining kids can be quite challenging. Kids learn from their parents how to behave. How you behave in front of children sets an example to them. You have shared a divine example to explain how disciplining in the true sense could be different from doing a formality. Thank you for sharing the post.

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